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Freeza never got to 100%
Topic Started: Dec 31 2012, 04:56 AM (2,722 Views)
EMIYA
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Aside of my joking sometimes through topics, there seems to be a case where some people believe that Freeza never got to his full power due to the Genki Dama and all that stuff.

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Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P11.1-3
Context: with 5 minutes (ha!) before Namek explodes
Freeza: “In that case, I’ll show you my 100% power! There’s no way you can defeat me! Prepare yourself!”
Goku: “Why are you using your full power now?...I know: it’s because when you use all of your power, your body itself can’t handle it.”


As stated by the lord himself, Freeza does not intend to go to 82% or 95% or 99.9999% He intends to go to 100%

Which means that not only is the idea of Freeza being weaker than he would be without the Genki Dama and SSJ beating nulled, but the whole idea of having a 10x SSJ multiplier at that time is absolute garbage.

Just thought I'd pass this note by.
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Agreed. Wasn't it already known that he was 100 % Freeza?
Edited by SSJ, Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM.
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^Better edit that one word post.

Yeah I think all the Genki Dama did was lead to more stamina issues due to injuries, nothing more.
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM
^Better edit that one word post.

Yeah I think all the Genki Dama did was lead to more stamina issues due to injuries, nothing more.
Honestly I just think the spirit bomb just hurt his pride.
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RAT-TAT-TAT-TAT

Yeah Friezas durability is unbelievable I believe the Spirit Bomb only scraped him a little bit and hurt his pride also.
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He was getting to 100% of what he had left.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

SuperSaiyan2
Dec 31 2012, 05:00 AM
Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM
^Better edit that one word post.

Yeah I think all the Genki Dama did was lead to more stamina issues due to injuries, nothing more.
Honestly I just think the spirit bomb just hurt his pride.
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Chapter: 317 (DBZ 123), P10.3, P12.1
Context: after getting hit with the Genki-Dama
Freeza: “Ev-even I thought I would die…I, the great Freeza, was pushed to the brink of death…[ ] Even having taken this damage, there’s still no way I’ll be done-in by the likes of you!”


As you can see, the Genki Dama hurt a lot more than his pride.

There are some people on here though who do believe Freeza somehow wasn't at 100% and I just thought I'd come by and smack some sense into these people as often have to sometimes.
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That raises an interesting point then. How was it that he managed to recover his energy so fast?
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SuperSaiyan2
Dec 31 2012, 05:09 AM
That raises an interesting point then. How was it that he managed to recover his energy so fast?
He never lost it.
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Brofist
Dec 31 2012, 05:07 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Dec 31 2012, 05:00 AM
Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM
^Better edit that one word post.

Yeah I think all the Genki Dama did was lead to more stamina issues due to injuries, nothing more.
Honestly I just think the spirit bomb just hurt his pride.
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Chapter: 317 (DBZ 123), P10.3, P12.1
Context: after getting hit with the Genki-Dama
Freeza: “Ev-even I thought I would die…I, the great Freeza, was pushed to the brink of death…[ ] Even having taken this damage, there’s still no way I’ll be done-in by the likes of you!”


As you can see, the Genki Dama hurt a lot more than his pride.

There are some people on here though who do believe Freeza somehow wasn't at 100% and I just thought I'd come by and smack some sense into these people as often have to sometimes.
Doesn't that show he was damaged greatly.
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Um yeah. Pushed to the brink of death, supa damage.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

His phsyical body and stamina were greatly affected forcing his 100% to dwindle must faster than it would have normally.
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There's an entire chain of quotes that prove he was at full power.

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Chapter: 320 (DBZ 126), P11.1-3
Context: with 5 minutes (ha!) before Namek explodes
Freeza: “In that case, I’ll show you my 100% power! There’s no way you can defeat me! Prepare yourself!”
Goku: “Why are you using your full power now?...I know: it’s because when you use all of your power, your body itself can’t handle it.”

Chapter: 321 (DBZ 127), P1.3
Freeza: “I’ll settle this at full power. It’ll take 1 minute…No, 30 seconds…”

Chapter: 321 (DBZ 127), P2.4
Context: as Freeza powers up
Goku: “His ki is swelling up and becoming full…So he’s finally bringing out this ‘100% power’ thing of his, huh?...”

Chapter: 321 (DBZ 127), P3.5
Context: as he lets Freeza power all the way up
Goku: “I really might not get this chance again…The chance to see the strongest bastard in the universe at full power…”

Chapter: 321 (DBZ 127), P5.2
Context: Freeza’s still powering up
Freeza: “85%...90…”
Goku: “Freeza…The reason I’m waiting for you to reach full power…is because I want to beat you down when you’re at your best…That way, you’ll have no regrets as a warrior…You want to try testing out your full power too, right? If you didn’t, you would have just fired at the planet again and ended it…”
Note: Goku might be talking about himself, or both he and Freeza, not having any regrets as warriors.

Chapter: 325 (DBZ 131), P8.2-5
Context: after Goku and full-power Freeza have fought for a while
Goku: “I quit. [ ] As a backlash from you using your 100% power, you’ve passed your peak, and your ki is steadily dropping…I’m starting to think that there’s no point in fighting any more than this…”


I find it impossible to believe anyone would think otherwise...
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Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 05:10 AM
SuperSaiyan2
Dec 31 2012, 05:09 AM
That raises an interesting point then. How was it that he managed to recover his energy so fast?
He never lost it.


Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 05:12 AM
Um yeah. Pushed to the brink of death, supa damage.


How does this make sense then?
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Not sure what you're getting at....

Kyouka Suigetsu
Dec 31 2012, 04:58 AM
Yeah I think all the Genki Dama did was lead to more stamina issues due to injuries, nothing more.
^Forgetting already..?
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